Thread: Rule change proposal...

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I sure would like to see who started the rumor of this rule change. Is it related to Russians invading the pier.

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Originally Posted by ironman172

Said volunteer is crossing a line , more then his Facebook morning videos warrants....

Sounds like the DSSPP (Double Secret Squirrel Police Person) is watching and recording our every move. Be afraid........

One observation I would make about restricting the end of the pier to drift fishing is that the "hot" king bite really just lasts 3 months (or so). That's going to make the end of the pier a pretty lonely place for much of the year.

Combine that with the shark problem and it really looks like it won't work to me. They had a rule like that on the old pier for a while and it was the same, the end of the pier was empty much of the time.

This is just like the upwind side of the pier not being very useful without trolleys, even on the octi.

Trying to make simple rules for complex problems won't work.

To quote H.L. Mencken: "To every complex question there is a simple answer—and it's clever, neat, and wrong!"

Originally Posted by david lea

I'll say right off that I don't have all the info on this but it seems there is a proposal to allow only drift bait/live bait fishing on the octi between the yellow lines (the "no bottom fishing" zone that is mostly the south end of the octi)

That would mean no buubles, gotcha's, X raps, etc. No "casting and retrieving". Interesting idea but it's sure to make a lot of folks howl. Think the one rod trolly affects some fishermen?

I am a rule follower , but I will be breaking that one

While rules are open for discussion I think there is another that needs adjusting - I know this is minor, but...

To have a rule that only five hooks are allowed on a Sabiki while almost every Sabiki sold (including those sold at the pier) has six hooks is just silly. I understand the intent, but somebody needs to think a bit.

Making dumb rules that only cause trouble if enforced (or that are not enforced) causes a lack of respect for the rules.

Originally Posted by frednic

While rules are open for discussion I think there is another that needs adjusting - I know this is minor, but...

To have a rule that only five hooks are allowed on a Sabiki while almost every Sabiki sold (including those sold at the pier) has six hooks is just silly. I understand the intent, but somebody needs to think a bit.

Making dumb rules that only cause trouble if enforced (or that are not enforced) causes a lack of respect for the rules.

That was just a misprint when somebody typed it up. It was suppose to be 6. The intent was to cut out the bait slingers throwing the great big ones with 12 on them.

Originally Posted by Robert(Tato)Piteo

That was just a misprint when somebody typed it up. It was suppose to be 6. The intent was to cut out the bait slingers throwing the great big ones with 12 on them.

As i said, I understand the intent (and certainly agree), but things like this do affect the average man's perception of the reasonableness of the rules.

No matter how many rules are made we still must depend on the courtesy and common decency of our fellow men. Rules just will not cover everything.

I just want to point out that most visitors to the pier lack experience and understanding of saltwater fishing concepts we take for granted. Forget upcurrent vs downcurrent and which way is which on a given day. One rod at a time taxes them. Rods for 3 kids plus 2 adults tended by 1 adult while the other adult tends the kids is not what we think that rule means, any more than a bare-hook rod leaning on the rail while a bait rod is in use somewhere else. Explaining why a 2-rod trolley is not 2 rods at once is not going to be easy for them to swallow. Simple rules beget simple explanations, but more complex techniques suffer.