Thread: Help selecting new king reel

I've got a couple of Penn 560 Slammers that you would probably enjoy. Line cap. is 270 yards of 15lb mono. Check them out and if interested PM me. If not interested in one of those I have plenty of other options. Sitting on about 200 Penn reels at the moment and need to move a few.

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How does a 6000 or 7000 Fierce or Sargus compare to a Battle? Again, hard to justify the extra cost for a setup I wont get to use as much as my other gear. Will call j&m tomorrow. I would prefer to buy from them if price is competitive!
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I own 2 Penn Sargus 8000s that I use for king fishing. The only differences between it and the battle is the battle has HT100 drags and a different color scheme. I am extremely pleased with the Sargus thought. Really smooth drag and a lot of it(about 28 lb worth). It is a little on the heavy side but is tough as nails. I have 250 yd 30# braid backing and top shotted with 16# line, giving me a total of around 525 yd. You can get a new one for $100 and probably find a used one for a good price online.

A 6000 Fierce or Sargus would be all you need. Battles aren't worth it, they are nothing more than $6.25 worth of drag discs, a fancy over hyped rubberband and a different cosmetics are all that separates them from the Sargus reels. It's my impression that the Sargus has a better drivetrain than the Fierce, but they both seem to up to the task.
If you want to double up on your willing to pay amount, go ahead and get a 560L Slammer Live Liner. Learn to use that reel and you'll never need or want any other king reel.

Fin Nor Off Shore series ;they are heavy ,but they are built that way,The thing that i like best is the drag system,you can put more drag on than you or your line can handle,or have it so loose that a small live bait will pull it out,and the range of play to get it take set back to what you need, is short.The selling point for me was, that they were being used on charter boats for tuna gear and after a three year use they where still working.Pick the one that gives you the line capasity you need;the last one I bought was at Dicks,they had the size I was looking for.

I've gotten it down to a 750ssm, a 750 live liner, or a sargus (with HT drag) or Battle. How does a live liner type reel work for pier applications? Also, I noticed the sargus/battle have over twice the max. drag of the 750s. Will the 10-11lbs of drag on a 750 be enough for a cobia or use on a boat? Thanks again guys!

I use a Penn Conquer 7000. It's a bit smaller than traditional king reels, but it's super light-weight, has HT-100 drags, and has a lot of line capacity for the long runs. It gets the job done-got it spooled up with Momoi. My other setup is my ole 705Z :fishing:

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I've gotten it down to a 750ssm, a 750 live liner, or a sargus (with HT drag) or Battle. How does a live liner type reel work for pier applications? Also, I noticed the sargus/battle have over twice the max. drag of the 750s. Will the 10-11lbs of drag on a 750 be enough for a cobia or use on a boat? Thanks again guys!
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If you want the HT100 drag for the Sargus, good luck. I have been looking for some and have yet to find any. The only other option is Carbontex washers, and they ate expensive as hell. The drag in the Sargus is already good enough for what you are gonna do with it.

My son uses Penn Fierces (5000, 6000 and 8000), and I have used them a few times and personally like the 5000 the best. I've never heard drag sounding like nails on chalkboard as stated above.

They work extremely well, and have pulled in some nice fish. For their size and line capacity, they are also quite lightweighted, and cheaply priced.

If you get a Penn Fierce, though, do NOT get the combos, because the Penn Rods they come with are total cheap crap and break easy.

The reels, though, are very nice for the price, and you won't have any issues if you take care of them.

Get a proper king rod from J&M and go with the Fierce in my opinion.

Get some 16#-20# test line (Momoi Diamond, Yozuri Hybrid, or Vicious Ultimate), and go to town.

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I've gotten it down to a 750ssm, a 750 live liner, or a sargus (with HT drag) or Battle.[/quote]
The 750SSm is too heavy as is the 760L, a Sargus or Battle would be fine in the 5000 or 6000 size with the right amount braid backing.

How does a live liner type reel work for pier applications?

Very well, probably better than any other spinning reel set up any other way including a manual pickup.

Also, I noticed the sargus/battle have over twice the max. drag of the 750s.

So what.

Will the 10-11lbs of drag on a 750 be enough for a cobia or use on a boat?

More than enough.

If you want a good king reel get a 560L Slammer put 300 yards of 20# braid under 130 yards of 16# Momoi and never look back.

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If you want the HT100 drag for the Sargus, good luck. I have been looking for some and have yet to find any. The only other option is Carbontex washers, and they ate expensive as hell. The drag in the Sargus is already good enough for what you are gonna do with it.
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You're looking for something that doesn't exist. At least it doesn't exist with that name. Get the HT100 disks for a the comparable Battle and you will be set.