Thread: fish cleaning

This is NOT the brand or grinder that we are presenting. Industrial grinding equipment isn't normally advertised for a few reasons, but I can provide a smaller device that demonstrates the "idea" behind what we are trying to achieve.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkh...ronmental_tech

Click this video and watch a small grinder in display.

Grinders such as these are typically installed inside a wall/room area and locked away in an enclosure so that they are not accessible and capable of removing human limbs.

A deposit shaft is installed externally where fish remains are tossed inside (similar to a wood chipper). Water sources are also installed at strategical points which allow freshwater rinsing (even during operation).

The liquified remains can be captured and used for fish chum or fertilizer, but for the pier, simply letting them fall into the Gulf may be the best method.

Enjoy the carnage!

If those are installed I'm definitely fishing by where they dump in the water.

Great job VG. Hope the State follows through.

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I wonder how that grinder handles 4X trebles, wire leaders, filet knives, fish scalers and God only knows what else some idiot will toss in it just because they are stupid.
If it is not indestructible and idiot proof, it will stay broke down. The one or two heads a time loading shown in the video is not going to be the reality of use on the pier.
Don’t get me wrong, I hope this will actually work and make the pier tourist fisherman friendly forever.
I still say the best and cheapest solution is to grant the pier an exception to the law; toss ‘em overboard and let the toothy grinders do their thing, they are always there and maintenance free.
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The opinions expressed here represent my own and not those of the GSPFF.

Yeah, this is a primary concern. We are presenting larger ones than shown in the video--that is just a miniature example.

As for "idiots" tossing other things in it, there will have to be an elimination process for that. The simple truth is that the grinder will have to be utilized by a pier staff member and the access point will host a one way swinging door holding vat--which will prevent flies etc from forming. The vat will catch the fish parts and other things. The pier worker would have to sort it about 2-3 times per day.

My guess is the access point would need to be locked during non-business hours, and while open during the day, locals would need to help "police" what gets tossed therein.

Yes, changing the letters of the law is cheaper, but could remain unlikely. We will find out this Saturday if progress was made in the right direction.

The good news is the grinders we are showing can easy demolish lead weights, hooks, etc. I still think it should be sorted by a staff member. I am sure a few trusted fishermen would gladly volunteer to help as well.

Thanks for the vid VG,

Finchaser wrote:
I wonder how that grinder handles 4X trebles, wire leaders, filet knives, fish scalers and God only knows what else some idiot will toss in it just because they are stupid.
[size=18pt]If it is not indestructible and idiot proof[/size], it will stay broke down. The one or two heads a time loading shown in the video is not going to be the reality of use on the pier.
Don’t get me wrong, I hope this will actually work and make the pier tourist fisherman friendly forever.
I still say the best and cheapest solution is to grant the pier an exception to the law; toss ‘em overboard and let the toothy grinders do their thing, they are always there and maintenance free.

We gotta hope that the new grinder can about handle a volkswagon!!!!!!!!!
I don't think the original grinder was INDUSTRIAL enough for the idiots. You know they make grinders that will crush boulders and turn them into gravel.

If we end up with one that can take it, VG will be a hero :yay: :yay: :yay:
Otherwise I agree with Fin, toss the chit back to contribute to the food chain. [size=18pt]How hard can it be to make an exception for the pier?[/size] It'd take the commissioner less than 5 minutes to write the order.

Just sayin........

I just want to fish without fear like the rest of us.

The real hero will be our assistant commissioner--whether he gets the words changed or gets a top grinder--either will be a solution to an all around rediculous situation.

I wish you the best with this VG.
It could be a truely satisfactory solution for this messy issue.

Some thoughts (if I may)
After viewing the video it's obvious there needs to be a trained human to 'feed the beast'.
It appears this thing would handle FROZEN fish carcasses just as well?
Would it be possible to have a refrig or freezer installed in the octi building with an access port folkses could stuff carcasses into for holding?
And (like you mentioned) periodically a trained employee could come out and grind the stored carcasses.
I doubt they would allow even a qualified volunteer because of the liability issue of running such a potentially dangerous device.

The one thing we do NOT want (nor can tolerate) is to have stinking, rotting, maggot infested, over stuffed garbage cans out on the pier! ???

Even the pier employee will not have hands near the grinder itself. The grinder will be out of reach. Let's say FnD is the paid soul, he would place the acceptable fish parts inside a drop shoot that would behind lock and key.

These safety measures would prevent liability for all parties involved.

The small grinder in the video can take on frozen parts, but it is so small, the heads might just dance on it for a few minutes.

Larger grinders will not have that problem. The big guns could near liquify your tackle box.

Meanwhile, the vat would certainly need a form of refrigeration to slow down the decompsition process of remains.

[size=12pt]Don't under estimate the ability of people to put themselves in harm's way!
I used to work at a paper mill and it is unbelievable the lengths people will go to in order to circumvent every safety latch , lock and/or electrical fail-safe device known to man if they thought it would make their work easier or shorten the time needed to do a task safely.
People have lost too many fingers to mention and a few lost their lives by trying to shave a few seconds off the time to do things the safe way.
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In Chicago along Lake Michigan they have grinders like this and it is amazing how well it handles big salmon heads and waste.
Just one thought or question....
Is it better to drop full fish parts over the side that sink to the bottom and get eaten and broken down by rolling with the waves along the sand - or - what would it be like if every couple hours the employee uses the grinder. How big of a chum slick would this produce and drift into the beaches where people swim?
Just a thought