Thread: coastal lock swivels

Having to be sure to wet the line and pull it slowly or it will kink is a bit worrisome. All te knot looks to be is a uni with the line through the swivel eye twice.

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Having to be sure to wet the line[/quote]
I always thought this step was conventional wisdom and have always done it without question on all my knots. You're comment has definitely got me to thinking that it may be an unnecessary step. I will do some testing and get back with the results.

and pull it slowly or it will kink is a bit worrisome. All te knot looks to be is a uni with the line through the swivel eye twice.

It is just a uni with an extra pass and it does make cinching the knot down more difficult. However it is worth the extra effort if you're not in a rush to tie up. It is not the type of knot you or at least not I can tie in haste and expect good results. IMO a hasty uni is better than a hasty F-N-F, if nothing else it is faster to tie.

I learned this knot from John G. but his version only uses two loops versus three. Works great and is extremely fast and easy to tie, not to mention it works with everything from 10-200 lb test.

http://www.tampa-fishing-charter.com...uper-knot.html

The grouper knot is close to a uni but stronger.Three loops on line under 50lb and two on line 60 to 250.I use this knot most all the time because it's the only one that works with heavy mono and me working in an offshore tackle store it's a must.Another thing,it's the only knot I can tie fast and perfect in the dark once I'm able to find the eye of a #14 swivel.As for braid,palomar is the way to go.

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[quote author=the original pier pest link=topic=2485.msg22631#msg22631 date=1358175193]
Having to be sure to wet the line[/quote]
I always thought this step was conventional wisdom and have always done it without question on all my knots. You're comment has definitely got me to thinking that it may be an unnecessary step. I will do some testing and get back with the results.

and pull it slowly or it will kink is a bit worrisome. All te knot looks to be is a uni with the line through the swivel eye twice.

It is just a uni with an extra pass and it does make cinching the knot down more difficult. However it is worth the extra effort if you're not in a rush to tie up. It is not the type of knot you or at least not I can tie in haste and expect good results. IMO a hasty uni is better than a hasty F-N-F, if nothing else it is faster to tie.
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Can't lay my hands on it right now but I read a study and watched the accompanying video where the tester proved, at least to my mind, that pulling a dry knot down the standing part (of any knot) and the resulting heat does in fact weaken the knot. Alternatively, the wet knot showed significant gains in strength over the dry knot.

That said, knots are like preachers and pediatricians. Everyone has their favorite and any discussion of them is likely to be lively. oke1:

Uni has always been my favorite, going to have to try that with the second wrap. Bet that will be hard with heavy line, but guess you don't need a 100% knot when using a heavier leader for abrasion resistance, or a shock leader. I always have done like peaches, use that leader til its dead or too short.