What as a LY?

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I thought a LY was a Scaled Sardine, but also hear LY’s called an Alewife.
They look like two different fish to me, which is it? I’d say the Scaled Sardine is what we call a LY.
This is based on my 10 minute unscientific research.
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I would say Scaled Sardine, but people already call another fish a sardine.

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I would say Scaled Sardine, but people already call another fish a sardine.
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[size=12pt]Maybe this will help
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Im assuming LY got there name from Alewifes? Can you confirm this. That is what I always thought.

[size=12pt] Maybe it means [size=14pt]L[/size]ocal [size=14pt]Y[/size]okels since they always hangout at the pier. :poke1:
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My understanding is that LY is a local term for scaled sardine. An alewife is a fish native to the Great Lakes region. However, even wiki isn't sure. They essentially say an LY is a local term for a Great Lakes/NorthEast fish that is sold for bait in the SouthEast. But the picture they show isn't the same as our slimy little bait buddies.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alewife

I first learned of Alewifes in Marine Biology in High School in F'hope. The science book even had them as bait fish on the gulf coast.

Then I started playing with Slippery Dicks and forgot about the LY.

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I really need to invest in a waterproof keyboard.

[size=12pt] CLARIFICATION OF A PREVIOUS POST
Slippery dick (Halichoeres bivittatus) is a species of ocean-dwelling fish in the family Labridae.[1] Its Spanish common name is "doncella rayada".
Physical description
The slippery dick has three color phases. Adults have two dark lateral stripes, one running from snout through eye to caudal base and the other, less pronounced, on the lower side of body. A small bicolored spot at edge of gill cover within upper dark stripe (all phases).[2] Dark triangular corners on tail. Irregular light red bands on head and on caudal fin. Shades of green. Intermediates: Color vary greatly, from shades of light purple to dark brown. Juveniles are usually white and have two dark stripes, but the lower (abdominal) stripe may be faint.[3] The slippery dick reaches about 30 centimetres

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Do you know how bad it burns when diet coke come out your nose? :poke1:
:spank:

I actually got to touch a live slippery dick at the Dauphin Island Sea Lab on a field trip.

[size=12pt] 69 folks have read this thread, but only 4 posting!
What up wid dat? :poke1:

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[size=12pt] How to Identify a Slippery Dick
http://www.ehow.com/video_4973013_id...dick-fish.html
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I actually got to touch a live slippery dick at the Dauphin Island Sea Lab on a field trip.
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This is getting to be too much! I can't stop laughing. Glad I am viewing this on my iPod so I don't have to worry about the keyboard. :poke1:

whats the old saying, (I am not touching that)

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[size=12pt] 69 folks have read this thread, but only 4 posting!
What up wid dat? :poke1:

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69 reading about a slippery dick.
That might be your answer.
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[size=12pt] 69 folks have read this thread, but only 4 posting!
What up wid dat? :poke1:

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I just feel that one is better left alone, however Blane had some photos of a slippery dick a few weeks ago.
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Yeah he put them all over my buddies cart.

Thank you for the good laugh.

[size=12pt]I don’t see why people think a discussion about bait fish is so funny. :o
Did I miss something? ???

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Now that I have stopped laughing, I can post that what we call LYs are really scaled sardines.
Pogies are menhaden.
Cigar minnows are a type of scad.
And what we call bonita are Little Tunny.

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[size=12pt]I don’t see why people think a discussion about bait fish is so funny. :o
Did I miss something? ???

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Now that's funny
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LMAO Thats what she said huh bubba :D so what have you killed off your slippery Dick :evil:

The reason people call them "LY" is because when you say "Alewife" outloud, it sounds like "LY." So, people who type on forums and are too lazy to spell out the whole word, "Alewife," they just type the sound out as "LY" because it is easier.

(Ale) - (wife)
(L) - (Y)

Does that mean every herring we toss over the rail is an "LY"? No, not at all.

I will provide a guide to identifying these species later this evening when I get home from work.

The "alewife" in the photos above is not really a genuine fish just based on the fins alone. That is a distorted variation of a Blueback Herring at best. Internet is full of misinformation. I'll help us out here shortly so everyone knows what is coming over the railing in the form of bait.

...and for the record, Halichoeres bivittatus can reach beyond 30 centimeters. Just sayin'. :banana:

Buzz killer :spank:

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Buzz killer :spank:
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By the way, just got finished working, so too tired to make the list. Will try later.

And in south Flordida, they call LYs "Pilchards".

Also, if you ever caught a "Northern Mackerel" over on the Fort Walton or Navarra Pier, they are actually small true Atlantic Bonito which for some reason show up over that way some years. I caught tons of them at Fort Walton back in the early 90's but never on GSPP.

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LMAO Thats what she said huh bubba :D so what have you killed off your slippery Dick :evil:
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Cant really do anything with them. Too hard to use and fast little squirts.

Now ya talkin my language, I wouldn't know a "Halichoeres bivittatus" if you hit me in the face with it. :banana:

Vernacular being what it may; somebody, somewhere, somehow started using the term "LY" in reference to Scaled Sardines.

It likely transpired like this:
circa 1960s on a gulf coast pier...
A group of tourists walks out on the pier and observes resident fishers trying to catch mackerel.
"Aye-ya" says one of the tourists. "I see yous guys using alewives for bait like we do in New England."
"LYs?" says one of the locals with a spit of tobacca juice. "I don't know nuthin bout no LYs. But son, dat dere is a minner."

And the phrase is coined. :headbang:


Now what I wanna know is who in the wide world of sports invented that red ribbon rig? ???

I wonder the something about the ribbon rig..wonder how they found out there like red? maby they had red swimming trunks and they attacked it HAHA :)

And are we the only place that uses red ribbons? I have never seen them on any other pier.

:nyd: gillnets are illegal in florida

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:nyd: gillnets are illegal in florida
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Well played.

glad that your back for good bubba :headbang: we need to hit navarre together sometime, i'l be there tomorrow

[size=12pt]Peaches, I just noticed your cool signature, maybe you should have some warning labels made to slap on your kings when you give ’em away. :poke1:
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“Give a googan a king, and he can eat for a day. But teach a googan how to kingfish, and he'll be dead of mercury poisoning inside of three years”

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Now ya talkin my language, I wouldn't know a "Halichoeres bivittatus" if you hit me in the face with it. :banana:
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Now that is a good one.

I heared that many years ago, some gillnetter dude came home from slaughtering fish all night and found his ol lady wearing a bright red negligee in bed with his pier fishing neighbor.
The netter kilt his ol lady and wrapped her red negligee clad body in a old gillnet and dumped her in the Gulf the next night close to a gulf coast fishing pier.
Her lover, the pier fisherman incidentally hooked into the gillnet while fishing for kings. When he was finally able to reel in his catch, he saw her body still wearing the red negligee wrapped in the net.
He started yelling; “ Look at all those bait fish gilled in that net, it must be the red fabric they are after!”
Thus my friends is how idea for the red ribbon rig was born.
It is unclear as to exactly who created the first prototype, but some say it was the gillnetter in order to raise money for a defense attorney.
Fact or Fiction, who knows?

Many great inventions were an accident.
Or, like the weedeater, someone said, "Huh. look at that chit. I wonder what would happen if.....Well, I'll be danged....."