Thread: Law Enforcement...Really!

Spent last evening on the pier and enjoyed every minute of it. Also discovered Linn had been out checking passes and coolers. Then to my surprise, myself and several others were checked by an actual Fish & Wildlife Game Warden. First time I had seen this on the pier in a while.

Glad to see some checks being done and wish it would happen a little more often. What's the old saying? Never a cop around when you need one!

The Warden did explain that most salt water enforcement is left up to Marine Resource people and that Alabama Fish & Wildlife normally only handle fresh water issues. That explains why we seldom see a Warden on our pier.

So, if you fish the pier, better behave.

Good fishing everyone...

For those out there who are less experienced and just don't know, eventually you WILL be approached by a conservation officer. He's going to ask you how you measure your fish to know that you're in compliance. I keep a tape measure in my tackle box for that purpose. It costs less than two bucks. That, plus the size/limits for each species taped on the inside of my tackle box shows the officer that I'm serious (eym_sirius) about compliance with game laws.

Originally Posted by eym_sirius

I'm serious (eym_sirius)

Call me dense, but never got that till now.

This is good news! I've never been checked on the new or old pier. I complained to the the game warden last year about folks takeing under sized and over the creel the limit fish but nothing ever came out of it. Aggressive enforcement is the only way to keep the fishing on Alabama's gulf coast top notch!

Some of you might be happy about modern day "law" enforcement, but I am not. As far as I'm concerned, modern "law" enforcement is at best a slap in the face to the founding revolutionists of this country. At worst it is a spit in their faces. They sacrificed their lives in an attempt to provide you and me freedom from tyranny, and the extortion of your money, for breaking their [modern government] rules is: absolutely, "tyranny".

I know I know, you're all gonna tell me that rules are necessary for society blah blah blah.... To this, I would reply: their [the revolutionists] fight wasn't to promote society, it was to promote true anarchy. Anarchy and freedom are synonymous. Anarchy is NOT the total absence of rules and consequences, rather it is the absence of tyranny.

Yeah yeah I know the standard argument is that we'll all die in anarchy. That is utter bull-malarkey. Humans have survived since the beginning of humanity in anarchy. We've only been subject to the tyranny of "the state" less than 10% of human history.

"The state" meets every single definition and exhibits every single characteristic of the mafia, and meets its own criteria for a "Racketeering Influenced Criminal Organization" aka RICO.

The supreme "law" of the land, our u.s. constitution, explicitly forbids any rule, or "law", to be created that contradicts its fundamental premise which is to defend individual freedom from tyranny. Yes, the u.s. constitution's main purpose is to protect and promote the individual's rights, NOT the rights of "society". So the entire premise of conservation is unconstitutional as is extorting any individual's money and violating their individual rights for the profit of "the state" and or "society".

So you'll never see me applauding an enforcement officer of "the state".

Obviously Bmhjones doesn't realize these same law enforcement officers are sacrificing their lives to protect his and our freedoms. I hesitate to think what a mess we'd be in if it were a free for all every time we stepped out of our homes.

BHMJ - you do what you feel you need to do. I'm going to support law enforcement and respect our representative form of government. If I have a problem with a law or the way it's being enforced, I'll take it up with my representative in the state house or in Congress. Make up your own definitions if that tactic, in your own mind, straightens the convolutions of your misconceptions of freedom and anarchy.

I'm thankful that there are conservation officers around to keep the takers in our society from depleting the resource that we enjoy so much!

I was checked on the pier last summer. I get checked everywhere I go.....I must look shifty or something. He did ask me about my pier wrist band from the day before which I was using because I was there at 0530 which they told me was ok. Checked my license and fish as well. I've never been cited but if a Warden is within 5 miles....they seek me out.

I think that guy just doesn't like having to follow laws. He wants to be able to do whatever he wants, or has been on trouble before. That's the ones that are always criticizing law enforcement. But always the first one to complain about others not following laws.

Most laws, not all that are in place to protect and conserve fish and game are good for society as a whole. If those laws did not exist and there was no one to enforce them there would be no game or fish to harvest, they would have gone the way of the Passenger Pigeon long ago. The Indians only took what they could use. The white man took everything that walked, flew or swam and let a lot of it rot in the field. Twenty years ago deer and turkey had almost disappeared from most southern states. Just seeing a fresh track was a big deal. Today because of good laws and conservation officer's they are thriving and hardly a challenge to hunt. Commercial fishermen would turn the earth's waters into fishless dead seas if there were no laws and people to enforce them.