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Still got treble hooks - eagle claw 957M size 10 - 3x strong American made--- 50 for $ 5.00. Due to the new rule I'm not advertising/ selling on my pier cart when I'm on the pier. I'll be on the pier most mornings until the end of March, available for discussion. Just ask around for Jim from Wisconsin most of the regulars know me. thx jjm
PS---- Happy Birthday Pier#r!:)
What new rule ?
It may be about no bottom fishing with treble hooks but don't know if it applies to pier. Pretty sure it is for out in a boat bottom fishing.
i’m guessing it’s an advertising rule. like no soliciting.
Todds fault :D
Sorry my mistake , Mike who I think is the new pier manager said "no selling on the pier" when questioned he said " it's an old rule now being enforced" ---- so be it.
That's a stupid rule , who caresQuote:
Originally Posted by jjfish
Then walk out to the parking lot to exchangeQuote:
Originally Posted by jjfish
Anna gonna stop me...I'll challenge this one.
Never been a rule and I been fishing off this and the old pier for 45 years!
if soliciting is what the conversation is about then it is listed as prohibited. i’d still buy from anyone on here though. i’ve been in trouble for worse.
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Limit of 6 rods per fisherman (additional rods brought will be charged $3.50 each)
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Bottom fishing up-wind/up-current
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Limit 6 rods per Fisherman (additional rods $3.50 each) One fishing rod in use at a time
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Soliciting and selling are two completely different things! nuf said---I still have hooks for sale. I'll wait and see how this shakes out. thx jjm
Just pay rent space like you do at the flea market:DQuote:
Originally Posted by fshntime
As a tourist that visits the pier it seems odd to get tough on this minuet rule when so many of the rules are not enforced. I bought a bag of the hooks last year and a sign on your cart saying you have hooks for sale doesn't hurt a thing. Maybe we need to hand out signs that say "I scatter trash, fish with 5 rods taking up 40 ft of rail and cut bait on the benches and rails". Maybe they'd tell them not to do that anymore. I'd bet it has something to do with money being made they aren't getting. Having said that I'd love to be there now fishing around those people instead of recovering from Monday at home.
Selling my used items or bartering is not solicitation. I dont seek or approach others to ask for donations or push people to sell retail products or services. Just offer extra stuff I have sitting on my cart for anyone that may want it.
Travis, I agree, more important stuff to enforce!
seriously, this can certainly be upsetting and frustrating but hardly surprising. after all the pier is run by the state of alabama.
I'd like to see THIS rule enforced when there are 50 guys trying to get a rail spot for whiting: "One fishing rod in use at a time".As for the selling of fishing tackle, private transactions are nobody else's business. I can see why the pier wouldn't want somebody setting up shop on the pier and advertising goods that compete with those sold in the tackle shop. A golf course wouldn't let a golfer sell his extra clubs outside their Pro Shop. The best strategy is to have an identifying flag like FSHNTIME and HAYWIRE have and then to communicate to other fishermen HERE (on the forum) that you'll have certain products for sale on the pier for anyone interested.
I'm sure the pier management has better things for employees to do than worry about someone selling a few excess items - BUT I can also imagine what it would be like if some folks started taking advantage of the opportunity and running businesses out of their pier carts.
It would not take long for that to spread and the pier would look like a flea market or Middle Eastern souk. They would have to put a stop to that (most of us would want them to do so). In this day and time if there was one group group doing most of it they would be hollering "discrimination" and have lawyers and the press out the next day.
The only way to keep that situation from developing is to keep the selling from getting too obvious. I imagine that if you keep it quiet nobody's going to get exercised about it, but they cannot let it get out of hand.
i think that if you aren't making it openly known on the pier that you're trying to sell- you're probably ok. Especially if the agreement to sell is made here and the exchange happens there. it's not like anyone's walking around on the pier in a trench coat filled with fishing gear and approaching people saying "hey buddy, wanna buy a reel?"...
I guess I have been guilty , give almost all the jigs away in the past , and a few gaffs, but had sold some too... maybe brought up by the pier tackle shop??? Personal sales I can't imagine they could stop as long as no real obvious advertising set out in view
JJFish had gotten a wrong order through EBAY and merely put a cardboard sign on his cart handle that he had extra hooks for sale. He was told to take sign down and couldn't sell them. A little over the top IMHO. Just sayin'.
i don’t care about this rule. but i do understand it to “the letter of the law.” my biggest issue is the blatant disregard to the enforcement of other rules that are more egregious and more prominent.
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Originally Posted by fshntime
there's punks selling pot and pills a block or less down on the beach and there's all types of mischief and straight up stupidity happening on the pier at night, and they chose to worry about someone selling a few treble hooks.
Yep beer cans in every garbage can in the mornings. Haven't heard about the park and pier but is smoking prohibited on the pier now since Orange Beach and Gulf Shores outlawed it on the beaches?
I'm gonna put my name sign on my cart. I'll be available for discussion about the 3x size 10 treble hooks that I have. thx jjm
I'm going to try to catch you tomorrow at some point to pick up 50.Quote:
Originally Posted by jjfish
Thanks, David