kings

hello all ive been living down here for 5 years. can anyone tell me how to rig and the bait i need for kings have been targeting them for two years with no luck

J and M Tackle Bro.... John G's guys are the best around for getting you started. :) What methods have you been using?

been using 80lb mono with too small trebal hooks and floating a cigar minnow or

dude dont use mono for kings :spank:

well what should i use

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got to have wire leader for kings. they chew threw wire sometimes and will destroy mono

in stained water I go with 60 lb. sevenstrand wire. When the water is clear I go down to 27 lb. This time of year some of the bigger fish come through so 60 is a good idea. For fishing cigs I use either a #4 or #2 4x strong treble hook with a black swivel on the top side. I make my leaders around 16 inches long.

Easiest thing:

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Go to the octi, watch, talk to the guys catching Kings and ask them to help you out.

I'm using 27lb single strand, small swivel, 16lb main line and a 4x treble. Free line a Ly.

yup i use 60# sevenstrand also ya dont loose big fish with it and i never loose fish from being cut off and same size hooks also come watch us or walk to me and i'll help ya out :headbang: just tell me who you are haha

I use the same setup as PurpleNGold. Except I take a more gutsy approach with 6-10# test main lines. I get flack for my light lines, but it is how I have fun and I only eat Kings under 40" due to mercury. So killing a big King is not my style, and I make it near impossible for myself to catch them on purpose. Much rather catch and eat a large spanish! :headbang:

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Easiest thing:

Visit J and M
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Go to the octi, watch, talk to the guys catching Kings and ask them to help you out.

I'm using 27lb single strand, small swivel, 16lb main line and a 4x treble. Free line a Ly.


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Get some 20 to 30 pound seven strand depending on water with a number 4 or 2 treble hook and a swivel. Make your leader about a 2 feet long and tie a overhand knot and tighten your knot and cut off excess wire. That's all you need to catch a king.

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Easiest thing:

Visit J and M
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Go to the octi, watch, talk to the guys catching Kings and ask them to help you out.

I'm using 27lb single strand, small swivel, 16lb main line and a 4x treble. Free line a Ly.

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That's how I do it, except I substitute the LY for a Cig.

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Get some 20 to 30 pound seven strand depending on water with a number 4 or 2 treble hook and a swivel. Make your leader about a 2 feet long and tie a overhand knot and tighten your knot and cut off excess wire.[size=10pt] That's all you need to catch a king[/size].
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I would add bait to the hook, jus’ sayin’ :poke1:

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Get some 20 to 30 pound seven strand depending on water with a number 4 or 2 treble hook and a swivel. Make your leader about a 2 feet long and tie a overhand knot and tighten your knot and cut off excess wire.[size=10pt] That's all you need to catch a king[/size].
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I would add bait to the hook, jus’ sayin’ :poke1:

in that case a rod and reel would also be helpful.

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Stop by some time and I will show you how to rig.The best advise I can give you is watch the people that catching fish:what bait and what size bait are they using?In the case of cigs,how fast are they working the bait?How long are they letting the bait sink before working it?Are the fish out far or in close?How are they hooking the bait?What direction are they casting?These are a few of the things to look for.For kings I like to fish dead bait over live,not because it's a better method but it's more fun.The first thing I want to know is what direction the current and wind is going.Lets say there is a slight east breeze with the current going east to west(Perfect conditions)if standing at the end I will cast 10 or 11 o'clock depending on how strong the wind and current is and work my bait with the help of the current.Another thing,if there are people fishing both dead and live baits,fish live baits the down current side of the pier and dead baits up current to avoid tangles.Sorry if this is hard to understand,I sucked at English in school.

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^^ I am with Fin on that one!!

what are some of the different baits i could float other than cigar minnows and when is best morning sunset etc

Pretty much any live bait you can catch at the pier. Lys, sardines, Spanish, bluefish, so forth. Get you a bait ribbon and a sabiki to catch the bait hanging around the pier.

That's another one of those watch and see what/where everyone else is getting bait. I'd have cigs on hand cause bait disappears from time to time. Especially when you need it the most.

Daylight and dark are usually best but anytime between could be just as good.