what pound line do you use if youre fishing out at a rig?And what kind of yardage?thanks for any learning tips
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what pound line do you use if youre fishing out at a rig?And what kind of yardage?thanks for any learning tips
Mr.Relleno.Do you ever fish out at the rigs?
[quote author=Charles posey link=topic=1833.msg17202#msg17202 date=1344822048]
Mr.Relleno.Do you ever fish out at the rigs?
[/quote]Ya saw me lurking your thread, eh? :D
Charles,
I don't know much and am still learning, but what has worked for me so far when fishing with a buddy on his boat is.
Inshore/Nearshore, I've not had a problem with anything on 150-275 yards of 10-20#.
Granted, there is the off chance of hooking into something that is going to hand you your arse back, but even then play it right and anything is possible :fishing:
Going to rigs a little further offshore, with the increased chances of larger game, I've taken one rig with 275 yards of 30#, and one with 400 yards of 50-80#.
Nice thing is if the fish runs away from the rig, you can chase it with the boat, so mega yardage is not an absolute necessity.
But higher test is great for horsing them away from the rigs and preventing cut offs.
Just my $0.02 FWIW.
what kind of weight fish have you tackled with that 20-25 pound line?
Using 20#, my largest fishes decked on the pier so far have been Reds and Jacks in the 20# range.
I use the same 20# to toss baits for small-medium sharks in the surf, largest so far was an approx 5' Blacktip.
No idea on his weight... Know how to estimate weight from length?
It all depends on what rig you're fishing and the fish you're targeting.
What are you targeting?
[quote author=PurpleNGold link=topic=1833.msg17220#msg17220 date=1344847229]
It all depends on what rig you're fishing and the fish you're targeting.
What are you targeting?
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My thought exactly. Kings? Spanish? Snapper? AJs???
All my reals 4/0 have 40-50lb and my 850ss and mitchells have 20lb. This will work for most unless you get into big aj's then a 6/0 with 60 is nice but not always needed
When l say l'm learning,l really mean it.l dont have any idea what yall catch out by the rigs?l'm trying to get a general idea of what l "might " need.We've talked about going out on a calm day.And,what does 4/0 mean for a reel?
4/0 is the size of the reel. I'm not sure if this designation is for Penn reels only, but it applies to their conventional reels, not spinning reels.
Sorry, I posted too quickly--- The 4/0 is the size of their models 113 and 113H. I've always loaded mine with 50# test. You can actually cast with one of them, but it takes a heavy lure and a very educated thumb---that solid brass spool wants to keep on turning once it starts.
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Sorry, I posted too quickly--- The 4/0 is the size of their models 113 and 113H. I've always loaded mine with 50# test. You can actually cast with one of them, but it takes a heavy lure and a very educated thumb---[size=12pt]that solid brass spool wants to keep on turning once it starts[/size].
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[size=12pt][font=comic sans ms]Yep, and when they get a bird nest, it is usually something like what an Eagle would build! :wall:
Charles,
which rigs in particular are you planning on fishing?
In the bay and/or within a few miles of shore or the offshore deep water rigs?
Knowing this will allow people to know which species you're most likely to catch on the regular assortment of live baits, cut bait and lures.
The ones closer to shore.you can see a slight out line of them.
The closer rigs will produce a few different types of snapper, Cobia, Macks, sharks.
For kings just use the same set up as you would on the pier. Snapper can be caught on the same set ups. You shouldn't need anything too big for the closer rigs.
[quote author=Charles posey link=topic=1833.msg17289#msg17289 date=1344973253]
When l say l'm learning,l really mean it.l dont have any idea what yall catch out by the rigs?l'm trying to get a general idea of what l "might " need.We've talked about going out on a calm day.And,what does 4/0 mean for a reel?
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4/0 means will hold 300 yards of 40 and 6/0 300yrds of 60 as a rule of thumb
[quote author=PurpleNGold link=topic=1833.msg17307#msg17307 date=1344987313]
The closer rigs will produce a few different types of snapper, Cobia, Macks, sharks.
For kings just use the same set up as you would on the pier. Snapper can be caught on the same set ups. You shouldn't need anything too big for the closer rigs.
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Like I said beforeI'd take two, maybe three rigs... My 6.5' Penn Fierce 2000 R&R Combo with 10#, 7' Seeker-Medium with Penn 7500SS & 20# and perhaps 7' Daiwa Medium/Heavy with Penn 505HS with 30#.Quote:
Inshore/Nearshore, I've not had a problem with anything on 150-275 yards of 10-20#.
Granted, there is the off chance of hooking into something that is going to hand you your arse back, but even then play it right and anything is possible :fishing:
l appreciate it fellas.l understand now on the reel sizes.l was thinking about getting the battle 7000.lt holds 450 yards of 50#.braid.l havent looked at any conventional yet.the penn squall 40 Ld. looks nice.
Not sure if urns panning On using the reel for the pier or not... But if so I'd stay away from braid if your a beginner and also a spinning reel could double for mackerel and such Of th pier
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Not sure if urns panning On using the reel for the pier or not... But if so I'd stay away from braid if your a beginner and also a spinning reel could double for mackerel and such Of th pier
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Just ignore peaches, he just chokes fish anyways. :poke1: :poke1: :poke1: :poke1: :poke1: :evil: :slap: Did Jery write that?
Charles, it sounds like you could use the help of some more experienced anglers, or say a charter captain. A party boat out of any of the larger marina's will take you out to some spots and some rigs, teach you a few super basics, and help you catch a few fish. All for the low price of $60-80 + Tips and fees. (usually fish cleaning.)
You can also go over to J&M or like shops and they can help "outfit" you and help you select some decent gear, and explain a little bit about how to use it, line to use, rigs, ect. We can do our best to answer questions all day but in the end, experience and a little help will probably do the most for you. I've got little experience offshore fishing except the occasional lucky trip so take it for what its worth. Good luck, post up some pics and a report after you go.
Oops, this is pierless. Accidentally used my dad's account at his house.
[quote author=Charles posey link=topic=1833.msg17320#msg17320 date=1344995134]
450 yards of 50#.braid
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This sort of deal is more appropriate for a 70 mile out rig than a 7 mile out rig in my opinion. Stick with mono unless you have a specific reason (bottom fishing in super deep water where stretch could be bad, high speed trolling for monster wahoo that might take a ton of line etc) to use the braid.
Yeah,J&M has really helped alot.James and Mr.John.We've talked seriously about a charter.Moneys just tight for all of us.l appreciate all the advice.l'm sure it will all come together in my head.lts easy for me to get overwhelmed,after l read up on different equipment.l appreciate the input Mr.Relleno.lt all gave me some general idea.Ya'll take care.
My last rig trip 5 or 6 years ago was within 10miles of shore and resulted in a bonanza of big spade fish and a few trigger fish. We also had a couple of nice black drum. I was using an ambassador 6500 with 12lb test line and it worked great. Lots of fun and any medium spinning reel should be fun for fish like that. Of course Mr AJ will say goodbye if you hook him on something like that usually.